peta kills animals

[spooky_nine]

from: peta kills animals

i'm so tired of peta. older entry: things you didn't know about peta if you want to be a vegetarian, even though i feel it's inherently wrong, do it. your choice, your body. but don't feel so high and mighty about yourself. you're just as bad as the rest of us.

"Hypocrisy is the mother of all credibility problems, and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) has it in spades. While loudly complaining about the "unethical" treatment of animals by restaurant owners, grocers, farmers, scientists, anglers, and countless other Americans, the group has its own dirty little secret.

PETA kills animals. By the thousands.

From July 1998 through the end of 2003, PETA killed over 10,000 dogs, cats, and other "companion animals" -- at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. That's more than five defenseless animals every day. Not counting the dogs and cats PETA spayed and neutered, the group put to death over 85 percent of the animals it took in during 2003 alone. And its angel-of-death pattern shows no sign of changing.

On its 2002 federal income-tax return, PETA claimed a $9,370 write-off for a giant walk-in freezer, the kind most people use as a meat locker or for ice-cream storage. But animal-rights activists don't eat meat or dairy foods. So far, the group hasn't confirmed the obvious -- that it's using the appliance to store the bodies of its victims.

In 2000, when the Associated Press first noted PETA's Kervorkian-esque tendencies, PETA president Ingrid Newkirk complained that actually taking care of animals costs more than killing them. "We could become a no-kill shelter immediately," she admitted.

PETA kills animals. Because it has other financial priorities.

PETA raked in nearly $29 million last year in income, much of it raised from pet owners who think their donations actually help animals. Instead, the group spends huge sums on programs equating people who eat chicken with Nazis, scaring young children away from drinking milk, recruiting children into the radical animal-rights lifestyle, and intimidating businessmen and their families in their own neighborhoods. PETA has also spent tens of thousands of dollars defending arsonists and other violent extremists.

PETA claims it engages in outrageous media-seeking stunts "for the animals." But which animals? Carping about the value of future two-piece dinners while administering lethal injections to puppies and kittens isn't ethical. It's hypocritical -- with a death toll that PETA would protest if it weren't their own doing.

PETA kills animals. And its leaders dare lecture the rest of us. "

Comments

[dullglitter.livejournal.com]

J.D. , Michelle and I are all members of Peta 2. I find alot of it to be shit , and agree that most of them are fucking crazy.

But I look at it like this: we are good catholics in a room full pedophile preist.

It has a good message , but alot of fucktards have watered it down and now peta has no credit. ( except for a good laugh.)

[dullglitter.livejournal.com]

and on another note...It isnt that *wrong* to be a vegitarian. Just looks at statistics on obesity.

[spooky-nine.livejournal.com]

i think it's very wrong to be a vegetarian. you kill animals too, (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill) but you don't eat them. i eat what i kill (or in my case, gets killed for me).

and you get fat by eating a lot and not exercizing. vegetarianism just means you don't use meat. not that you exercise more than your carnivore bretheren.

[dullglitter.livejournal.com]

Im very aware I kill animals too. There is no "not killing" anything in the world. But the point is I try ( or at least thought I was trying not to.).
Plus the only thing I miss about meat eating is fish...and ocassionaly steak. Not a big loss.
My deal is: Im not out to save the world , Im out for me. I feel better about myself period.

[spooky-nine.livejournal.com]

so you're a vegetarian for health reasons, and not purely for non-cruelty reasons?

[dullglitter.livejournal.com]

a little of both actually. Im not a major health nut though ( if I was I wouldnt smoke.) But I do think its healthier. And Im a far thing from an animail lover.

cept cats.

[distorted--view.livejournal.com]

I will admit to some of Peta being crazy and full of hyprocrits, but there really are some people who have joined Peta becuase they really do belive in Animal rights. I mena just because there are a few crazy priest out there dosent not mean all the priest are crazy right?

I am not trying to start anything I am just simpily trying to debate something with you. I know it sounds like I am being an ass or a smartass but I really do not want it to seem like that is it.

[spooky-nine.livejournal.com]

as i stated in my earlier post, i'm all for the ethical treatment of animals. that's not going to stop me from eating them. but i don't like it forced down my throat, and i don't like when people follow something blindly. research what your sticker stands for before you stick it all over your books and cars.

this post wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, although i am aware a few of my friends are vegans/vegetarians.

[dullglitter.livejournal.com]

still though you cant say your an animal lover and then eat them cuz they are not as cute and fluffy as the kitties and puppies.
( Im going to try to find a better way and avoid soy products. its not about me saving all the animals it just makes me feel better that Im not taking a part in it.)

if they had cat tacos would you eat them? might as well if its FDA approved.


not trying to start anything...but the post is kinda offensive to those who *try* to do the right thing.

[spooky-nine.livejournal.com]

i've eaten cat. involuntarily of course, but eaten it nonetheless. it's really good.
i think cows are cute, and pigs are adorable. i have no love for chickens, they're scary. but i eat meat b/c i like it.
i am an animal lover. i've taken in more stray animals than i can count over the years. my love for animals has nothing to do w/ my choice to eating them. if they made cat tacos, i probably wouldn't eat them, b/c i have pet cats. i might feel different about bacon and hamburgers if i had pet pigs and cows.

this post wasn't against vegans/vegetarians alone. that was just a side beef (heh heh) i have. it was against peta, mostly. i don't think you caught the difference, or maybe i didn't make it clear enough. everything i've posted is factual, and backed up w/ sources. even maddox's rather rude page about it has cited sources.
i kind of lost my train of thought...

[brattzo666.livejournal.com]

CAT TACOS!! That sounds good actually.

[ladydayholiday.livejournal.com]

I've always hated PETA, and now I loathe those bastards. Vegan smegan people have a biological need for animal proteins. Why aren't these people out saving rainforest animals instead of whining about lab mice used in perfume research.

[dullglitter.livejournal.com]

you get protein other places.( I have a perfectly healthy freind who has been vegitarian for four years.)
I agree that they/we should do more work like saving rain forest. But Im also against the animail testing. Yeah sure no big deal to you. Your not getting "bod" sprayed into your eyes.

[ladydayholiday.livejournal.com]

Maybe not, but I'm sure that you're appreciative of all of the benefits you've received from animal research. Every drug you've ever used, every procedure that's now mainstream had to be perfected somehow before they started practicing on you. Lab testing is definitely no LEGAL SEAL CLUBBING in Canada.

[spooky-nine.livejournal.com]

in the end, it all comes down to money. don't donate money to peta, since it's been proven they don't spend it like they lead you to believe. donate to no- kill shelters, spay and neuter programs, or rainforest salvation. eat meat or not, it's your decision, and you'll do what you want.
but peta is wrong and hypocritical. don't associate your good deeds w/ their lies and hypocrisy.

[dullglitter.livejournal.com]

Oh like I said I think they are nuts. I wouldnt donate a cent to them! lol.

BTW...

[dullglitter.livejournal.com]

I do want to thank you. Im dropping my Peta membership. I was unaware of how cray they really are.

[drunken-swagger.livejournal.com]

Raving dyke.

[drunken-swagger.livejournal.com]

p.s. Quit converting MY mindless masses to YOUR cause. They're MINE, you uppity emotastic lesbian.

[bitchheadprime.livejournal.com]

hahaha..is this dewd joking or not?

[spooky-nine.livejournal.com]

no. sadly, no.

[drunken-swagger.livejournal.com]

No, the sad thing is that it's all true.

[bitchheadprime.livejournal.com]

preach on sista! DOWN WITH PETA AND ON WITH MEAT EATING!

[spooky-nine.livejournal.com]

hahah AMEN MY BRUTHA!

[unholy-zahrim.livejournal.com]

Funniest part about vegetarians and things of the nature is that people who claim it and the unwittingly consume a gallon *obvious overexageration* of Jello brand gelatin, dont realise that the same basic composition of jello is the basis of most meats. So in reality they arent any different than us. =P They just like to think so.

Sometimes people become vegetarians because their bodies cant break down the red meats and other such things. Hep C prevents the breakdown of red meats, which the body needs to stay healthy to a degree *watched my father enough to learn quite a bit* but instead of becoming a salad-bar breath person *just kidding* he ate fish and chicken. Both combined are almost as good as red meats. Sure red meats are bad for you, but in this day and age what isnt? Unless you grow your foods outta the ground *which you still dont know if its got anything in it or not* then technically you could be doing just as much harm as carnivores.

To touch note on the obesity thing, its eating in moderation not material. I know people who eat a steak every other day, and I know people who eat out all the time. The difference is in alot of the activities the person does through out the day. And sometimes it is yet again the bodies designs and flaws *which we're designed how we are supposed to be from birth. No relation to religion in my view* My friend has a thyroid issue, causes him weight trouble. Me, I have an overactive metabolism and I CANT gain weight. Obesity is really an individual thing. =)

[dullglitter.livejournal.com]

Yes. dumb vegitarians eat jello. Im a vegitarian ( if you havent guessed from most of the thread.) and I dont. Nor do I eat most debbie snacks due to the fact they contain animal fat.

[rager-rabbit87.livejournal.com]

Hey! Don't be so mean to vegetarians! I am one and have been for 9 years. Now I'm definately not a Peta freak (I live in my Uggs) nor am I an extreme animal rights activist. I just think it's gross to eat skin and veins and organs. blech. So please, don't say it's "inherently wrong" to be a vegetarian. I think what's inherently wrong was the first dude to eat me, like "Awww, what a cute little bunny! I think I'll kill it, rip it's skin off and cook it! Yummy!"

[spooky-nine.livejournal.com]

i don't think i was being mean at all. if you would read the link, you would understand.

[sonnysky.livejournal.com]

it's about time you listened to me.

[spooky-nine.livejournal.com]

silly man, i never listen to you.

[aj-h04.livejournal.com]

And anyway, If those combines always kill them, then they were born without legs or brains, one of the two, maybe both.

[spooky-nine.livejournal.com]

what?

[aj-h04.livejournal.com]

Do they not know how to run?

[spooky-nine.livejournal.com]

yes. yes, that's it exactly. the thousands of animals killed by giant combines in the fields were all born w/out brains, legs, and the ability to run.

conversely, why don't cows run if they don't want to be killed for food?

[aj-h04.livejournal.com]

The combines move slowly enough they should be able to get SOMEWHERE other than under it.

[aj-h04.livejournal.com]

you eat cows, so why are you worried about them?

[aj-h04.livejournal.com]

You know I am just doing this to argue right? Just because there are vegetarians and they are a minority of americans doesn't mean that people should bash them. They are just as guilty as anyone else, yes. but, they do it for the mind frame I guess. Some people just feel guilty about KNOWING they are eating meat, they may know they are eating it but they can't see it infront of them, so to THEM, it makes it better.

[spooky-nine.livejournal.com]

for the umpteenth time:

"this post wasn't against vegans/vegetarians alone. that was just a side beef (heh heh) i have. it was against peta, mostly. i don't think you caught the difference, or maybe i didn't make it clear enough. everything i've posted is factual, and backed up w/ sources. even maddox's rather rude page about it has cited sources."

[spooky-nine.livejournal.com]

what?

[spooky-nine.livejournal.com]

i'm stunned by your convoluted logic. none of your comments matter. it happens. i don't know why the animals aren't faster, or smarter than harvesting equipment. maybe it's the for the same reason that humans are at the top of the food chain.

regardless of why or how it happens, it does happen. millions of animals are killed during harvesting. you can dispute fact. but i'llbet you try.

[dullglitter.livejournal.com]

Well maybe people should guard gates to feilds better. that would eliminate the problem.

[spooky-nine.livejournal.com]

then where would the animals live? people just don't care enough to keep the animals out of the fields.

[unholy-zahrim.livejournal.com]

Ok lets see, so if we did away with combines people would stop griping about the animals being killed by them ever harvest season. But then what about the animals killed by cars and things of that nature? Should we do away with the mechanics all together and regress back to a state of slave labor in the fields and ox and cart for travel?
Look we all have to just deal with the fact that alot of our choices screw up the surroundings of our world. If you dont wanna deal with it, become amish and move on.